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					<description><![CDATA[Did I stutter? But incidentally, this reveals that &#8211; shock horror &#8211; I use Bing.  I actually use it by default on all my own devices.  Why is this so, when I work at Google?  Well, first, I don&#8217;t work on Search, so I have no particular vested interest in it.  Second, after I joined&#8230; <a class="read-more-link" href="https://wadetregaskis.com/do-you-mean-what-you-mean/" data-wpel-link="internal">Read more</a>]]></description>
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<p>Did I stutter?</p>



<p>But incidentally, this reveals that &#8211; shock horror &#8211; I use Bing.  I actually use it by default on all my own devices.  Why is this so, when I work at Google?  Well, first, I don&#8217;t work on Search, so I have no particular vested interest in it.  Second, after I joined Google I decided I wanted to actually check out the competition<sup data-fn="1efebdfd-17f5-4d2c-bd63-db5a17e4958b" class="fn"><a href="#1efebdfd-17f5-4d2c-bd63-db5a17e4958b" id="1efebdfd-17f5-4d2c-bd63-db5a17e4958b-link">1</a></sup>.  I&#8217;d relied on Google exclusively for as long as I could remember &#8211; probably since Altavista, or something that similarly shows how ancient I am<sup data-fn="b09f71af-a6ab-4a37-9e8e-7f6aac1ea9f8" class="fn"><a href="#b09f71af-a6ab-4a37-9e8e-7f6aac1ea9f8" id="b09f71af-a6ab-4a37-9e8e-7f6aac1ea9f8-link">2</a></sup>.</p>



<p>So basically I set each device I owned &#8211; iMac, iPad, iPhone &#8211; to a different search engine, and then forgot about it and used them for a while. &nbsp;I quickly discovered that Yahoo sucks. &nbsp;<em>Really</em>&nbsp;sucks. &nbsp;I was amazed how useless it was for virtually any query I could think of.</p>



<p>But perhaps more insidiously disturbing is that I found myself cursing Google&#8217;s stupidity when I couldn&#8217;t get results I wanted. &nbsp;Only to realise I was using Bing. &nbsp;And that really summarised it &#8211; I couldn&#8217;t readily tell the difference in day-to-day use.</p>



<p>Now, it&#8217;s not entirely true that Bing is equivalent. &nbsp;It does a small number of things better &#8211; it tends to just work better on iDevices, for example, in subtle ways &#8211; but it does occasionally generate unexpectedly short sets of results. &nbsp;The same search on Google then yields an order of magnitude or more results, including, quite often, the ones that are actually useful. &nbsp;So I do occasionally swing back to Google on a query-by-query basis.</p>



<p>I have not really tried any other search engines &#8211; DuckDuckGo a couple of times, for curiosity&#8217;s sake &#8211; because, sadly, you can&#8217;t set them as the engine for the dedicated Search field on any Apple products. &nbsp;Which is kind of frustrating. &nbsp;I miss creaky old <a href="https://www.omnigroup.com/blog/OmniWeb_Tip_Lucky_Shortcut" data-wpel-link="external" target="_blank" rel="external noopener">OmniWeb&#8217;s system of URL macros</a>. &nbsp;I understand that Firefox has similar functionality, but then I&#8217;d have to use Firefox&#8230; ick.</p>


<ol class="wp-block-footnotes"><li id="1efebdfd-17f5-4d2c-bd63-db5a17e4958b">[Amendment from 2024] Although if I recall correctly the <em>specific</em> instigation was a Google-internal report proclaiming and lauding Google&#8217;s results as vastly superior to Bing&#8217;s, in a way that reeked of deception and insecurity.  So I think I wanted to see for myself what the Google Search team were pretty obviously trying to hide (from themselves, if not everyone else). <a href="#1efebdfd-17f5-4d2c-bd63-db5a17e4958b-link" aria-label="Jump to footnote reference 1">↩︎</a></li><li id="b09f71af-a6ab-4a37-9e8e-7f6aac1ea9f8">To all you damn kids on my lawn, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltaVista" data-wpel-link="external" target="_blank" rel="external noopener">Altavista</a> was the big kahuna of search before Google. <a href="#b09f71af-a6ab-4a37-9e8e-7f6aac1ea9f8-link" aria-label="Jump to footnote reference 2">↩︎</a></li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
					
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