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		By: Wade Tregaskis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wade Tregaskis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 01:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wadetregaskis.com/radar-or-gtfo/#comment-75&quot;&gt;Kevin Chen&lt;/a&gt;.

I can&#039;t say with authority, since I never worked as a hardware engineer on hardware.  I do know a few, though... based on what I saw and heard from them, off the top of my head, I&#039;d say they care about reproducibility a lot more.  As a software engineer at an application level, it&#039;s plausible to go through your code, with a known failure mode in mind, and find that one &quot;&#060;&quot; that should have been &quot;&#060;=&quot;, or whatever.

Not so - or at least less so - in hardware because it&#039;s rare for any one engineer to have access to all the relevant &quot;code&quot;; there&#039;s a lot more horizontal segregation.  Is it the driver kext?  The kernel?  The device firmware?  The cable?  Electrical?  Mechanical?  So a lot of hardware issues seem to pivot on pinpointing which layer is at fault - i.e. who&#039;s responsible - and passing it on to them.  Especially when you&#039;re talking about graphics issues, for example, since that&#039;s a big chunk of hardware not made by or necessarily transparent to Apple.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wadetregaskis.com/radar-or-gtfo/#comment-75" data-wpel-link="internal">Kevin Chen</a>.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say with authority, since I never worked as a hardware engineer on hardware.  I do know a few, though&#8230; based on what I saw and heard from them, off the top of my head, I&#8217;d say they care about reproducibility a lot more.  As a software engineer at an application level, it&#8217;s plausible to go through your code, with a known failure mode in mind, and find that one &#8220;&lt;&#8221; that should have been &#8220;&lt;=&#8221;, or whatever.</p>
<p>Not so &#8211; or at least less so &#8211; in hardware because it&#8217;s rare for any one engineer to have access to all the relevant &#8220;code&#8221;; there&#8217;s a lot more horizontal segregation.  Is it the driver kext?  The kernel?  The device firmware?  The cable?  Electrical?  Mechanical?  So a lot of hardware issues seem to pivot on pinpointing which layer is at fault &#8211; i.e. who&#8217;s responsible &#8211; and passing it on to them.  Especially when you&#8217;re talking about graphics issues, for example, since that&#8217;s a big chunk of hardware not made by or necessarily transparent to Apple.</p>
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		By: Radar or GTFO &#124; My Daily Feeds		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Radar or GTFO &#124; My Daily Feeds]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Kevin Chen		</title>
		<link>https://wadetregaskis.com/radar-or-gtfo/#comment-75</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Chen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 18:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great insight! How much of this applies to filing hardware radars?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great insight! How much of this applies to filing hardware radars?</p>
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